Comments on: Changing Fractions into Percent http://mathmojo.com/chronicles/2008/01/29/changing-fractions-into-percent/ The Official Blog of MathMojo.com - helping public school, homeschooling, unschooling students, parents, teachers and adults learn math with easy and effective methods. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:42:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Heather http://mathmojo.com/chronicles/2008/01/29/changing-fractions-into-percent/#comment-39995 Heather Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:20:56 +0000 http://mathmojo.com/chronicles/2008/01/29/changing-fractions-into-percent/#comment-39995 Brian, this is exactly the way I taught fractions to my son. I remember being perpetually confused about pi in school. "Pi is a number representing the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter." How on earth can a decimal number be a ratio? It wasn't until my senior year in high school that a math teacher bothered to mention the whole 22 over 7 thing. So when my son learned division, I showed him the "fraction arrangement" as one way to write the problem. Then when he learned fractions, we talked about whole numbers being DIVIDED into smaller parts. When he learned ratios, we wrote them with a colon AND as a fraction. And this year, when he learned about pi, he understood right away. If only this concept had been explained to me early on, it could have saved me years of frustrated confusion about math. Brian, this is exactly the way I taught fractions to my son. I remember being perpetually confused about pi in school. “Pi is a number representing the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter.” How on earth can a decimal number be a ratio? It wasn’t until my senior year in high school that a math teacher bothered to mention the whole 22 over 7 thing. So when my son learned division, I showed him the “fraction arrangement” as one way to write the problem. Then when he learned fractions, we talked about whole numbers being DIVIDED into smaller parts. When he learned ratios, we wrote them with a colon AND as a fraction. And this year, when he learned about pi, he understood right away. If only this concept had been explained to me early on, it could have saved me years of frustrated confusion about math.

]]> By: Brian http://mathmojo.com/chronicles/2008/01/29/changing-fractions-into-percent/#comment-39167 Brian Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:25:28 +0000 http://mathmojo.com/chronicles/2008/01/29/changing-fractions-into-percent/#comment-39167 This is Brian. I'm adding this comment, which is from the original reader. She is in China, and it seems that there are sometimes problems visiting different sites, and sometimes MathMojo.com is hard for her to access. So we've been corresponding by e-mail. After I answered her above question in an e-mail, she responded the next day. Here is her comment. Dear Prof, WOW! I am so amazed that I heard back from you so quickly and in time to assist my daughter! Thank you very, very much! Her response was "that's it" .... "that's so easy". She had to fill in a table that had various items given, either a percent, a fraction or a decimal. She did get a little confused trying to keep straight in her head which way to move the decimal to get a percent and which way to move it when changing a % into a decimal. The best we came up with was to think if we need "percent" there is an "r" so we move the decimal to the right and if we need "decimal" there is an "l" in it so we move to the left. We loved the explanation of the whole number being like one whole cookie each and ignoring it till we solved the division problem that was waiting to be done as you appropriately call the fraction and then add how ever many 100%'s to the answer. It certainly worked!! Thanks again! My only small comment is that for the mixed number example below it may be easier to use a different whole number than is also found in the fraction. My daughter needed clarification since there were two "5's" as I was giving her your explanation orally. Not a huge deal, but since you asked. :) Also, I found the explanation using the analogy of money very helpful with my daughter. For example, as she was filling in her table and had to change .25 into a percent I had her also think of money. .25 is saying 25 cents out of a possible 100 to get a dollar. Also, I noticed her math book that was asking her to change large fractions like 9/500 into a percent stated the answer as 1 4/5 % instead of 1.80%. That seemed strange to me since they were asking you to change FROM a fraction....but anyway this is again where money came in handy. She could think of just the .xx part of her percentage answer (ignoring the whole number for the moment) say .80 as 80 cents or 8 out of 10 dimes possible to make a dollar....8 out of 10 looks like 8/10 and that reduces to 4/5. Her book and teacher have approached the above with cross multiplying and dividing and it left my child very confused. Any other tips you use would be much appreciated. I home schooled my girls from the start and when we moved to China they transitioned to International School. They were 2/3 of the way through grades 3 and 4 when they entered the traditional school setting. Thankfully, they transitioned well. They are still in the same Int'l school in Beijing and fast approaching 2/3 of the way through grades 5 and 6. They use something called Int'l math for the curriculum. Many thanks!! Feel free to post anything if applicable. Kindest Regards This is Brian. I’m adding this comment, which is from the original reader. She is in China, and it seems that there are sometimes problems visiting different sites, and sometimes MathMojo.com is hard for her to access. So we’ve been corresponding by e-mail. After I answered her above question in an e-mail, she responded the next day. Here is her comment.

Dear Prof,

WOW! I am so amazed that I heard back from you so quickly and in time to assist my daughter! Thank you very, very much! Her response was “that’s it” …. “that’s so easy”.

She had to fill in a table that had various items given, either a percent, a fraction or a decimal. She did get a little confused trying to keep straight in her head which way to move the decimal to get a percent and which way to move it when changing a % into a decimal. The best we came up with was to think if we need “percent” there is an “r” so we move the decimal to the right and if we need “decimal” there is an “l” in it so we move to the left. We loved the explanation of the whole number being like one whole cookie each and ignoring it till we solved the division problem that was waiting to be done as you appropriately call the fraction and then add how ever many 100%’s to the answer. It certainly worked!! Thanks again!

My only small comment is that for the mixed number example below it may be easier to use a different whole number than is also found in the fraction. My daughter needed clarification since there were two “5’s” as I was giving her your explanation orally. Not a huge deal, but since you asked. :)

Also, I found the explanation using the analogy of money very helpful with my daughter. For example, as she was filling in her table and had to change .25 into a percent I had her also think of money. .25 is saying 25 cents out of a possible 100 to get a dollar. Also, I noticed her math book that was asking her to change large fractions like 9/500 into a percent stated the answer as 1 4/5 % instead of 1.80%. That seemed strange to me since they were asking you to change FROM a fraction….but anyway this is again where money came in handy. She could think of just the .xx part of her percentage answer (ignoring the whole number for the moment) say .80 as 80 cents or 8 out of 10 dimes possible to make a dollar….8 out of 10 looks like 8/10 and that reduces to 4/5. Her book and teacher have approached the above with cross multiplying and dividing and it left my child very confused. Any other tips you use would be much appreciated.

I home schooled my girls from the start and when we moved to China they transitioned to International School. They were 2/3 of the way through grades 3 and 4 when they entered the traditional school setting. Thankfully, they transitioned well. They are still in the same Int’l school in Beijing and fast approaching 2/3 of the way through grades 5 and 6. They use something called Int’l math for the curriculum.

Many thanks!! Feel free to post anything if applicable.

Kindest Regards

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